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Transcript of CLG chat with Greg Palast, Tuesday, March 26, 2002
Greg: Hello, compadres, GP here, back from a dinner table argument with a British toff dising the USA. As an American I can do that.
MRectenwald: hi, greg.
lrprice: Hi Mr. Palast ! :)
aliun: Hi Greg! - john vance here - Peoples Bark News Berkeley - online community newsletter.
Greg: Hey john. Is it all Bark? do you ever Bite?
MAGNETMEN: I have LOST my "moderator" status for TrustThePeople-Sacramento.......
Greg: Que es TrustThePeople?
MAGNETMEN: originally from CounterCoup.org......
Jack: Nice to finely speak with you in somewhat real-time, Greg. Jack of Leftwing and Democratic-Alliance.com here.
Greg: Hey, Jack, what does Leftwing do?
Jack: Leftwing is an old political discussion forum that has been together nearly 5 years. We have quite a collection of influential members in many sectors.
Jack: AmPol, Online Journal, and CommonDreams Editors are just a few of our many members.
Jack: We even have our own Old Catholic Bishop (c;
MRectenwald: watch your shorts, Jack!
Jack: Old Catholic, not Roman Catholic. The Rev is a happily married man.
spacecowboy: Greg, I appreciate the work you did in Florida.
Greg: Thank you, cowboy.
Greg: I used to be a sandwich-sign man in Berkeley, on Telegraph ave, with a whistle and plumed hat.
Greg: The Battle for Peoples Park formed much of my politics.
lrprice: Yes, thank you for all that you do for the pro-democracy movement!
Greg: I was on radio in Florida this week and Black voters began to call in about being scrubbed.
Greg: It was heartbreaking in a way that just looking at the voter lists cannot evoke.
aliun: Yes, thanks so much - Greg - you are the beacon in the darkness and there are many of us right there with you, of course!
MRectenwald: LOL, Really, until Greg gets his encore with the U.S. media, sing on!
Greg: Mike - yo! just got a call from Argentina. They're reading my World Bank documents their nation in my book. Un Escandolo!
spacecowboy: Why didn't anyone question W. when he condemned the elections in Zimbabwe?
Greg: Space, yeah, I brought up the Zimbabwe game on UK radio - why does Blair sanction Mugabe but not Jeb Bush?
Greg: Have you all bought books for your mothers? Their day is at hand.
MRectenwald: Greg, about the chapter 11 clause of the NAFTA agreement...
MRectenwald: Is this likely to be rolled out to more countries, allowing any corporation on earth to repeal environmental and other laws? what are the prospects?
Greg: You're testing me, Mike: you mean the Necessity Test?
MRectenwald: the clause that allows a company to sue any nation in NAFTA who in any way diminishes their ability to make a profit...
Greg: Yes, the NAFTA rule is likely to roll out across Latin America via FTAA - the Argentines are really scared - and hungry.
MRectenwald: Reversing yet more environmental regulations and controls could be very devastating. What the hell can we do?
Greg: Tell the truth on them. Bush made Bob Zoellick chief Trade Negotiator - a freakin Enron lobbyist!
MRectenwald: Fast-trak could be on-track to put us off-track. I think we need to tie bush to september 11th.
MRectenwald: I'm jesting, but just suggesting how teflon he is right now.
lrprice: Did everyone sign my petition to investigate oddities of 9/11?
MRectenwald: Greg, do you think there is anything to these "oddities" or is this a bad tree to bark up?
Greg: I'm still having no luck getting my story of how Bush quashed the investigation of the bin Ladins before Sept 11.
MRectenwald: can you recap that story in brief for us, greg?
aliun: Greg, is it documented that they went around and picked up how many bin Laden's the day of 9-1-1?
Greg: Don't have the number off hand - about a dozen. The problem: FBI agents thought they included material witnesses.
aliun: Greg, can you talk about the United airlines puts sales from the bank in Germany?
Greg: No one seems to have claimed their loot on the short sales.
aliun: And, what do you think of Israel Jared and the emporer's new clothes and Buzzflash?
Greg: I dig Buzzflash ... never heard of Mr Jared.
Jack: Buzzflash does some great stuff.
aliun: Israel Jared and http://www.tenc.net/. Check it out, Greg - this guys is all over it!
Greg: My next concern is Venezuela. It looks like the pals of Big Oil are loading their guns for President Chavez.
MRectenwald: Greg, to do what? what do they have in mind?
Greg: Chavez of Venezuela 1)doubled taxes on foreign oil exports and 2) passed a law giving untilled land to the landless. A capital offense against capital.
Greg: The US news media is calling Chavez a 'dictator' - this is a guy who won 70% of the vote - while Dubya's 'proven himself in office' - go figure.
MRectenwald: oh, yes, in retrenchment from the unregulated, untrammeled capitalism that they've seen destroy their economy...
MRectenwald: Anyone who opposes them is a dictator, whilst dictators who agree are "elected."
Greg: I expect a coup in the next three months - Chavez is a crude dissenter from the New World Order. He's as good as dead.
MRectenwald: thanks for the heads-up, Greg, so we know what the hell his assassination will be about. perhaps we'll nuke em.
Jack: So is there any way from stopping this hand dealt to Little Prince Georgie from playing out? Or we all in this for the ride to the bitter end?
Greg: I hate to say, 'read the book' - but my last chapter, Kissing the Whip, is about hope: 'Merkins will only eat so much Bushshit.
SPIRITnm: elections mean squat-no-one can get a hold of the election machines which happen to be proprietary and made in TX.
Jack: We need to start getting as many people as possible involved now in the election process as poll workers and monitors.
Greg: Yep - in Chicago, we never let the machine read the voter machines - poll watchers in every precinct every minute.
Greg: But they're not all that smart. It's a conspiracy of Larry, Moe and Curley Joe. We can outsmart'm.
SPIRITnm: they're all thick as thieves-look at the new stasi tactic where lieberman in charge and they've targeted Carter for speaking out!
spacecowboy: Greg, what do you think about the prison system being the new plantation?
lrprice: A corporate-fascist police-state, to be sure...
aliun: There is a california health bill being considered now that would make it a crime to not be vaccinated or inoculated against possible germ warfare.
aliun: You could be detained indefinitely and have your property confiscated for the public 'good'
SPIRITnm: prison military industrial complex all connected -
aliun: Christian prenti - Michael parenti's son has a great book called Lockdown America - read that if you get the chance!
aliun: Christian Parenti - oops!
Greg: I've read the parenti book - See my material on Wackenhut prison corporation - make you sick.
spacecowboy: I believe ending the drug war is crucial to our survival.
aliun: BUT, if they end the drug war - they would have to end the war on terrorism - they are connected, eh? :)
SPIRITnm: greg..if you get a chance check out http://globalcircle.net.
aliun: global circle is good!
Jack: We have gone from a nation of citizens into a nation of consumers. If we can't buy stuff, we are only worthy of jail and death.
spacecowboy: bell hooks talks about our ability to consume gives us the false pretense of equality.
Greg: Jack: no the poor are divided - some as prisoners, some as guards.
Greg: By the way, I can confirm I'll be on Politically Incorrect on 8 April. Assuming PI is still on.
MRectenwald: What day, Greg?
MRectenwald: Greg, please pound hard about the purge and the illegitimacy, of course--but hey, you told us about that.
Jack: Alex Baldwin gave you a great Intro to PI on his appearance last week, Greg.
MRectenwald: I'm still working on getting the reviews picked-up, Greg.
Greg: Yeah, Baldwin called me to pick up my spirits. He'll continue to help.
tony25m: Greg, I live in Florida. Are they going to do another "felon" purge?
Jack: FYI, Greg's columns that were forcibly removed from his web site are available in their entirety at http://www.democratic-alliance.com .
aliun: Greg, i am considering putting together a big event at the Polo Field in SF Golden Gate Park - Sept. 1 - Labor Day with many others.
aliun: So, Greg, if you can, keep Sept. 1st open for SF Polo Field - i still have to make initial contacts but wanted to let you know you are invited if...
Greg: Yes, I want to get back to SF. I'd like to keep Pacifica involved. And I'm planning Texas, Oregon, Seattle, Vancouver, Toronto, Boston, New Haven.
MRectenwald: M. Moore is doing some back-pedalling from his "no difference" post election days.
spacecowboy: yes, there are grumblings about Moore within the Green party
aliun: BUT, Michael draws BIG - tell me where Michael Moore is weak - and what do you think about Michael Moore, Greg?
Greg: He's large. If putting on a chicken suit gets our words out, terrific.
Jack: Greg, have you done much work with FreeSpeech TV??
Greg: FreeSpeech TV? Tell me.
Fredda: Freespeech TV shows Democracy Now!
tony25m: Greg: I remember a few weeks before the 2000 election Jeb Bush reinstated the voting rights of a former Black Panther. This guy broke the law many -
spacecowboy: You must be kidding.
tony25m: years ago and he didn't even ask for his voting rights back.
tony25m: Do you think Jeb Bush did this as a ploy?
Greg: I never attacked Jeb for removing felons from voter rolls - almost all the people on the list were INNOCENT. That's why the scrub was elections fraud
Greg: Pardons are unpardonable. The problem was that Jeb took away the rights of non-felons. spacecowboy: With the Republicans, I know where I stand as an Afro-American spacecowboy: can't say that about dems
SPIRITnm: they also had roadblocks stopping blacks so they couldn't vote
spacecowboy: it was the dems that allowed Jim Crow
spacecowboy: to persist
Greg: The scrub list looks like a South African police roster: BLA BLA WHI BLA
Jack: Greg, any plans on making the rounds of Leno, Letterman, or even Jon Stewart??
Greg: Well, call those programs and tell'm - where's Palast?
Fredda: there are links on http://www.gregpalast.com to write to.
lrprice: Yeah, so one person got to allegedly vote - thousands didn't get to vote due to Choice Point.
SPIRITnm: sorry but the whole electoral system is a fraud and rigged-voting does you no good other than an exercise for the sheople to believe they still have s[ay].
Greg: Voting isn't the answer. But NOT voting sure as hell ain't the answer either. Besides, you should vote because THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO VOTE.
tony25m: Greg, why do you suppose the Democrats never mentioned your findings? It's as if they are on another planet...
Jack: I witnessed an old black lady here in SC being denied the right to vote.
SPIRITnm: the dems are in on it too-they were prolly told to shut up spacecowboy: let us not forget that Phil Graham was a dem before he was a repub.
Jack: In fairness, the Dems knew the House would seat Smirk anyway. It was a political card to be played later.
Greg: Individual Dem officials are terrific: The Congressional Black Caucus; Congressman Bob Filner who introduced me in san diego, others....
Greg: ... but a sickening silence from too many official dems.
Jack: Agreed, Greg
spacecowboy: yes, very sickening.
SPIRITnm: if you vote they can manipulate the figures according to who they want to win-gandhis noncompliance w/evil.
MRectenwald: I don't think Gandhi's queitism can be interpreted so nihilistically,
Spiritnm: --and still be a correct interpretation, that is.
Greg: Voting is never an evil. Stealing votes is the evil. Not voting is not non-compliance with evil - it's abetting.
MRectenwald: Exactly, Greg.
Jack: I officially became a Black Man when the Congressional Black Caucus stood up for me.
SPIRITnm: greg-don't u think it's the individuals and not the party??after all easy to get into dirty politics.
Greg: They stood up for me too - but I'm still bald!
MRectenwald: I'm sure they Republicans are banking on the cynicism that might accrue due to the last faux election.
Jack: I'm just getting taller than my hair, Greg.
MRectenwald: Cynicism is a corporate ideology.
lrprice: Good point, Mike.
tony25m: How much blame do you put on the Florida State Legislature?
Greg: The law was salted with landmines by Clayton Roberts, a Republican House aide before he headed Harris' elections dept..
MRectenwald: That's why commercials trivialize protests and all political action.
aliun: Greg, what is the public opinion in London - or can you tell?
Greg: In Europe, they've read/seen my reports. No one believes Bush was elected. They can't understand why he isn't forced to resign.
Greg: On war: Mixed. the British were more gung ho on attacking Afghanistan than Americans.
MRectenwald: Greg, but as I noticed, the Brits think they actually have some influence over American politics--so, they just don't get it about the U.S. and the...
lrprice: I thought the British were vs. attacking Iraq?
MRectenwald: power of corporate mediation.
Greg: The Euro left is sadly lost in anti-USA rhetoric - so anti-Bush commentary is incoherent
tony25m: Greg: Do you think the U.S. media ignores stories that are troublesome for the GOP?
Greg: Does the US media ignore anti-Repub stories? I could list a bookfull.
Greg: In America, race remains The Final Frontier.
MRectenwald: A second bookful, that is, Greg! The first book is GREAT, btw. this is a great book folks, everyone must buy it.
Greg: Uh, oh, 1am here in Blighty ... last questions? I'll pick more when I read through tomorrow.
MRectenwald: I really think the issue of race will need to be refigured outside of the terms of identity politics and in terms of CLASS.
Jack: Enjoyed speaking with you Greg. Get some rest. We need you alert and healthy.
aliun: Do you have an email alert newsletter, Greg and can you put me on your list?
Fredda: sign up at http://www.gregpalast.com .
MRectenwald: Thanks, Greg. and Thanks for the book, and the reportage, the courage.
Greg: BTW: All royalties after expenses donated on the book. I pocket NOTHING.
Jack: Classy move, Greg.
tony25m: I've read some things about Rev. Moon at Robert Parry's site-- http://consortiumnews.com/ . Does he have alot of power in the GOP?
Greg: Moon has moolah - which buys a front row seat in any party.
aliun: And, yes, Greg, please have a good night and thanks - you should do this again but with a little more notice .
SPIRITnm: tnks greg-looking forward to next book.
lrprice: Thank you, Mr. Palast! :)
aliun: Yes, thanks for a great coverage of the grand theft!
Greg: Yes, we'll do it again ... and I'm Greg. I only make my kids call me Mr. Palast.
SPIRITnm: it's nice to know there are still decent people around-all my best greg.
tony25m: Greg you are helping to make America and the world a better place.
spacecowboy: thnx, adios, vaya con dios de tejas.
Transcript provided by Fredda Weinberg
Interviews Greg Palast (with
notes by Mike Rectenwald on his Fox News With Alan Colmes interview
on Feb. 24, 2003) --by
Michael Rectenwald, with Lori Price
CLG Interviews Greg Palast (with notes by Mike Rectenwald on his Fox News With Alan Colmes interview on Feb. 24, 2003)
--by Michael Rectenwald, with Lori Price
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