Michael Rectenwald, Ph.D. replies to a Freeper who says, 'I feel sorry for you' (Lori Price replies, as well!)
Michael Rectenwald, Ph.D. replies, February 1, 2005
I see that I am dealing with someone who has been programmed by a rightwing radio show host or other propaganda machine. You have no idea what you are talking about, and your 'facts' are completely errant.
The word "liberalism" was used well before Norman Thomas. But hey, you're only off by a mere century. I guess the thought police running around in your parts destroyed the vestiges of real history, and supplanted them with this faux history. The term "liberalism" was used as early as 1819, although the term liberal is certainly centuries older and applied to politics in the early 19th century. John Stuart Mill used the term "liberal" to apply to politics in 1838 and the term "liberalism" as such in his On Liberty in 1859.
So, as you see, the term "liberalism" was coined long before Norman Thomas was even born! You might want to consult a real source for etymology. Try the OED.
Secondly, liberalism as a political movement predates socialism by well over fifty years, and the characteristics of what was then liberal opinion defined the founding of the United States of America. Try taking a look at what the radicals of the late 18th century were writing in France, and compare it to the writing of the founding fathers, especially Jefferson.
So liberalism is not the equivalent of socialism, by any means.
Furthermore, totalitarianism can come in many flavors. The totalitarianism of the USSR was a mutation from the leftist thinking of Marx and Lenin, and represented the conservative reactions of the centralist Stalin against the leftist thinking of Lenin and Trotsky.
Totalitarianism is just as likely under rightwing rule, as can be seen in Nazism. And don't tell me that the Nazis were leftwing or "socialist." They hunted socialists with the same vehemence as they did Jews. To think that the Nazis were socialist or leftwing given their name is to succumb to a nominalist fallacy. Every political scientist will tell you that Nazism was rightwing and fascist. The current US administration resembles totalitarian fascism more than it does anything else.
Lastly, there are numerous versions of socialism and the vast majority of them are nothing like totalitarian. Contrary to the nonsense you have been imbibing from the rightwing ideologues on the radio and Faux News, the alternatives are not between rightwing corporate fascism (what we have today) and socialist totalitarianism. That is a false dichotomy. There is an entire political history of which you apparently have no idea, although you owe your very political rights to it. This is the history of Liberalism.
As for angels and other such inanities, please, I cannot even address this. Am I to worry about what is unproven, unverifiable, improbable and metaphysical when there are real, material injustices to concern me, such as the condition of the Iraqi nation given the imperial conquest of it by the US, and the numerous war crimes committed by the Bush regime, the condition of starvation and poverty of the majority of the planet, the hunger of one-third of American children, the growing poverty rate in the US, and the like? The off-putting of concern onto immaterial, unproven, unlikely and irrational phenomena is generally a sure sign that one is dealing with an obfuscating ideology, meant to disguise and cover up real atrocities.
Have a good day.
"." replies, January 27, 2005
Subject: Victory for you
you should slow down a little bit. Your jumping to conclusions. I
exactly what liberlism [sic] is all about. More then you, and your
Union was not a very productive country. Under socialism, it
be any other way unless their is sufficient spiritual development.
to understand that we know too well what is going on in this
cannot see the spirit world or communicate with angels, that is not
If I was
your best friend, I would tell you to get a "Soul Healing"
Victory for you if you do.
Michael Rectenwald replies, January 27, 2005
NEW DEAL! Learn how to read and write, and then maybe we can carry
"." replies, January 27, 2005
Re: I feel sorry for you
Michael Rectenwald, Ph.D. replies (to original email), January 27, 2005
Subject: Re: I feel sorry for you
Bush is doing a great job of creating Hells for a lot of people, not least especially the Iraqis. He is intent on making hell for you, your children, and your grandchildren too, as he dismantles every New Deal program and initiative he can get his grubby, oily and greedy hands on. He is only making happiness for a few thieving corporations, for whom he loots the national treasury. You are utterly deluded. You are like the believers in "1984," who actually believe the double-speak lies and propaganda spewed for you each day, and enjoy the torture of all those who don't. This is what Bush & Co. has turned you into: illiterate savage swine.
Lori Price replies, January 27, 2005
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